Monday, September 24, 2012

You Can’t Have a Latin Mass…

…AND HERE’S WHY. See the article, The Latin Mass: Why You Can’t Have It, at the blog man with black hat. From the article:
For those who experience difficulties in having the Traditional Mass celebrated in their locality, the inclinations of church authorities notwithstanding, much of that which they encounter may be strictly practical.
The Latin Mass: Why You Can’t Have It


  1. Mark, I cannot agree with either the tone or substance of his article.

    The tone is a very typical one with many, both of the new Mass camp, yet also of the self-hating semi-trad: we know better than some ignorant Catholic who wants the EF. The new Mass-er knows more because he is a trained liturgist, or freed from traditional superstitions, or perhaps thinks that Tradition is whatever the current Pope said in an interview five minutes ago. The self-hating trad is all too common. They prefer the old Mass, but like the guy with a moped, they wouldn't want their friends to see them at one. So, as a defense mechanism, they become the "good kind" of trad, who understand that their fellow Mass-goers are misguided troglodytes and who long for the perfect hybrid Mass. Or, perhaps, they'll settle for a really, really reverent N.O.

    Substantively, it denies an essential reality that produces the weak "supply and demand": priests are strongly discouraged from learning the EF, in many cases practically forbidden to do so; seminarians are not taught the EF, and the version of Catholicism-lite they get at seminary makes the theology and rubrics of the EF foreign to them; and most bishops do not do their duty in making it available to their flocks.

    Call me a "supply-sider" when it comes to the Traditional Mass and sacraments. If you increase supply, demand will follow. And that goes for the faithful at Mass, AND the priests who celebrate it.

    But perhaps I digress. Bo

  2. tinman:

    Wow, we've never met and you already know which form of the Mass I favor, and it's the one I've rarely if ever attended in the last five years. Pretty neat trick. And, as a Master of Ceremonies, it's really hard for my friends not to see me at one.

    Every man is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts. This piece is mostly the latter (although I invite you to prove otherwise).

  3. Master of Ceremonies??? what is that and where is that in the liturgy?

  4. Kestral:

    Next time you watch the Pope celebrate Mass on television, look for the middle-aged guy dressed like an altar boy with a red cassock, standing over the Pope's left shoulder, turning pages in the Missal and discreetly directing people. That is the Pope's MC. The more formal celebrations of the Mass have provision for a competent layman to be the main attendant to the celebrant, and to oversee the choreography of the others who serve at the altar. A bishop is usually attended by a priest, deacon, or brother (although in theory a layman could still perform the task). The Holy Father's personal MC is (usually) a titular archbishop.

    I hope that helps you.


  5. The title of “Master of Ceremonies” originally comes from the Catholic Church, and it is an important job at the Vatican. Some governments have similar job titles, and diplomats will employ protocol officers to act as a master of ceremonies.

    An MC typically organizes liturgy and processions, making sure that everyone is in the right place at the right time. I believe that an MC is required by the rubrics of solemn high Masses in the pre-concilliar liturgy. During these Masses, the MC can often be seen signaling when to stand, sit, or kneel, and the order in which people come and go during processions. They are especially important when there are lots of people serving and when dignitaries are present.

    An MC may also be in charge of selecting music, sending out invitations, writing Mass booklets, training altar servers, performing rehearsals, and such forth. Wedding planners and funeral directors typically act as MCs.